Seen on a car passing me in traffic.

[errantember]

"If Mary was pro-choice, there would be no Christmas!"

If Mary had a choice, she might have kept baby Jesus anyway.
If Mary didn't have a choice, she was effectively raped by God. Are you saying that having Christmas is so wonderful that it justifies worshipping a rapist?

Note to anti-choice advocates: It's not the pro-choice crowd that's trying to force anyone to do anything. There wasn't anyone present at the Divine Conception saying "we should force this woman to have an abortion." There isn't anyone doing it now, either.

I'm not saying this is a simple issue, because it's not. The above bumper sticker makes anyone associated with it look like un-educated knee-jerk dipshit. If I had issues with the idea of unborn babies being killed, I wouldn't want this bumper sticker making me look like an over-simplifying moron.

It's hard to take the moral high road when you're tripping over your untied shoelaces.

Comments

[stnuke.livejournal.com]

How did they fit all of that on a bumper sticker?

The text makes no sense to me. I mean, really, zero. "If Mary had a choice, she might have kept baby Jesus anyway". There's a 'had' missing there, for one thing, in the case of an event that already happened, so you can add ungrammatical to your list of adjectives. Overlooking that,

"If Mary had had a choice, she might have kept baby Jesus anyway"

In the context of a hypothetical work of fiction (or a hypothetical religion) in which Mary is forced to abort "baby Jesus", this makes sense. Since I thought the bible was clear (we're taking christian mythos at face value on this one for a moment) that Mary knew beforehand that she was carrying the child of her god, this would imply that she might have knowingly had an abortion. While the image of a fetal jesus returning from the dead to save the world *is* funny (imagine the items that would replace the crucifixion sculptures), I don't think that it was the intended meaning.

It's possible that somebody could have told her of all the suffering that would be caused in the name of her unborn child, though, and been persuaded to take that action, I suppose. I just don't get the message.

Alternately,

"If Hitler's mother had had a choice, she might have kept little Adolf anyway."

While bringing about the fulfillment of Godwin's Law, I think it's funny. I think this would qualify as an appropriate pro-death bumper sticker.

I really hate it when people do this to me (comment off topic)

[tavalon.livejournal.com]

so mea culpa, but you're an interesting Burner.

Re: I really hate it when people do this to me (comment off topic)

[errantember.livejournal.com]

Are you talking to errantember or stnuke? :)

Re: I really hate it when people do this to me (comment off topic)

[tavalon.livejournal.com]

Stnuke,actually. And the interesting take he had made gave me thoughtful pause. I'll admit that doesn't happen very often on LJ, you know?

As an aside, since I've already committed the hijacking scene:
Errantember,I quickly lesrned when you were a paramour of one of my wives that you and I share quite a bit of phsycobabble talking points, but points that have helped me and probably you,. That was a great conversation we had and I would have liked to have known you much better, If we make it to Burninman this year or even flipside I will look you up :)

Re: I really hate it when people do this to me (comment off topic)

[stnuke.livejournal.com]

::blush::

Thank you. I stole the link to the Yellow Ribbon... video from you, and have retaliated appropriately to your friend-assault. ;-) That'll larn ya'.

Indeed, indeed

[tavalon.livejournal.com]

It might not seem so, but I'm very careful and thoughtful about which bumper stickers I have on my car. It hasn't kept the back of my car from being a as opinionated as I am, though (you might remember it - it's the Maxima with a thousand bumper stickers on the back).